Summary: For Generation Z, dating is unlike anything seen before. An episode on reality TV shows its weirdness, providing a report from the front lines of the gender wars. Will dating bring the people of Gen Z to fulfilling lives — or be a bridge to nowhere?
A first date on “Celebs Go Dating”
I am two generations removed from the modern dating scene. My knowledge of it comes from reports of my two sons and young men I led in Boy Scouts. This little vignette epitomizes what they tell me. It took place on the British reality TV show “Celebs Go Dating.”
It pairs a very beautiful and very intelligent young woman with a not-too-bright hunk of a man. {Names deleted to limit their embarrassment.}
Closely watch this excerpt from this date and record your impressions about what happened. Post them in the comments.
{Clip removed by the station. Probably too politically incorrect.}
It is a classic confrontation in the form of what used to be called “dates.” He employs Game; she opens with “shit tests” (aggressive probes to determine if the guy is an alpha or beta).
The annotations — and reactions on social media (see below) — show that people believe that Mike lost, big-time, on this date. Let’s look deeper.
The transcript
This is from “Roissy” at Chateau Heartiste. I have edited and paraphrased it; see Roissy’s original for more detail. Some of the best interactions are visual, and so omitted from the transcript. Warning: Chateau Heartiste features racist, sexist, and white nationalist content. It is very politically incorrect.
0:18 — He opens with a conventional compliment: “You look nice tonight.”
0:24 — She opens with a test. “{Look} Up here please.” A betadroid would have apologized for his impudence. He replies, quite sensibly, that a woman doesn’t wear a sheer blouse if she does not want to be look at.
0:30 — She hits him with her second shit test, and it’s a doozy: calling him stupid. Again, he passes it easily by resorting (in so many words) to the classic CH Game technique Agree & Amplify. At 0:46, you see the effect his ZFG insouciance it has on her (it lights up her face).
0:48 — He flips the script and challenges her to a battle of wits. Now she has to qualify herself to him. (Remember a key Game concept: when a girl feels like she’s chasing, she’s tingling.) He plays a childish word game. She eagerly complies. That’s our hero’s first compliance hoop, which she jumped through no questions asked. Chicks dig children’s games.
1:10 — She wins, and believes that she has zinged him. He turned the tables on her by teasing her for “ruining” the game. She gets more interested.
1:14 — Her: “because I’m just clever.” HIM: “hmm”. Nuclear Neg. (You don’t have to say much to get your neg across.)
1:22 — Her: I’m a beauty contest winner. He: how many women entered? She: “about 10,000.” She wins.
1:30 — She spends some time trying to DHV him with her plans to become Miss England. {Demonstrated Higher Value, aka one upmanship}. Instead of groveling before her beauty like a beta, he (figuring out quickly what she was up to) simply changes the subject to her surname.
1:45 — He says his surname “stands for seaman”. …
1:55 — Another test: she asks him if he speaks Greek, first time in English then in Greek. Instead of a direct response (aka the dancing monkey response), he replies by asking if she speaks Greek. She says yes. …He asks her in Greek if “she wants a cucumber up her bum.” …
2:04 — Her face at this moment is that perfect mix of anger and arousal. Remember the CH maxim: The opposite of love isn’t hate; it’s indifference.
2:07 — She calls him a wanker. That would make a beta male turtle and beg forgiveness ….This is why betas fail with beautiful women. /ourGreek/ knows the score; …he quickly and unceremoniously announces he’s ready to go and she’d should hurry and down her drink {which she does}. This accomplishes three objectives: it shows he cares not a whit for her opinion (which raises his SMV relative to hers), it disrupts her thoughts (she thinks she has hand, but now she doesn’t), and it puts him in control.
2:16 — “I’m gonna play Flappy Bird while you drink that”. Silly non sequiturs are an integral part of pickup, best used at the moment you’ve brought a girl to genuine anger. It deflates her previous ire over his demands on her to hurry up and finish drinking. …
2:25 — He: “‘You’re drunk so I’ll put you in a cab home unless you want to do something you regret tomorrow, like have sex.” This rejiggers her self-identification from “I’m a hottie every man wants me” to “This guy wants to send me home and he’s been teasing me all night — am I not hot enough for him?”
2:37 — Final test. She tells him she’s going home after the date. He replies “No. I’m not. You are.” …
End scene with a simultaneous lean-in and hot kiss. Even if that was in the script, she need not have been so enthusiastic about it. I dated a lot in my 20s; dates often ended with a lot less than Mike got. Her boyfriend probably agreed that this was quite a hot kiss. This tweet (real or not) showed how most guys would react.
{Tweet about this removed.}
Women and soyboys went wild!
“…with viewers branding him ‘vile’ over the way he treated potential suitor Emma. …Fans of the show couldn’t believe their eyes after the reality star kissed another girl behind Emma’s back {before the date} … {Daily Mail.}
Twitter burned with the outrage of those condemning Mike for breaking the rules, and winning rather than playing the game by her rules and losing. My favorite tweet…
I’d love to be on #CelebsGoDating I wouldn’t let anyone like #MuggyMike treat me like that! He well are truly disrespected that woman! He will never find love acting like that!
— ShazzyB (@TheRealShazzzy) February 5, 2018
Conclusions
Girls that like bad boys are as old as history. Guys like George Wickham in Pride & Prejudice
That is what we see, spontaneously or scripted, in this video. How should guys respond? Girls that want bad boys like Wickham cannot be treated like Elizabeth Bennet. Guys attempting to do so are brushed off as “boring.” On the other hand, who can take a women seriously who acts as Emma does in this video? In response to modern young women, men have developed the tactics called Game.
Let’s go one step further. What’s the point of studying and working for decades if girls consider nice boys to be boring — and just want to have fun with bad boys? Instead follow the easy path: study Game, work the minimum necessary, and enjoy booze, drugs, sports, and games. Imagine a world in which Wickham is the successful model for young men.
Of course, most will want to settle later — but that’s another subject (see the posts in section two here).
For More Information
For more about modern dating, see these posts by the invaluable Dalrock. Here are a two of his best. First, “why women lose the dating game” gives the same message about marriage that I’ve said many times — the next 15 years will be critical for America. Second, how women see dating: as a reality show where they are both the prize (passive) and the judge (in control).
Ideas! For shopping ideas, see my recommended books and films at Amazon.
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- The revolution in gender roles reshapes society in ways too disturbing to see — Bloom on relationships.
- Love in the new world, after the gender wars — Allan Bloom on the ‘fall of Eros.’
- Mark Regnerus’s essay: Cheap Sex is the Inconvenient Truth in the end of marriage.
- About Mark Regnerus’ book: Misadventures of a young woman in modern America.
- A look at America’s future after marriage becomes rare.
- The disastrous results of trying to “have it all”.
- The coming crash as men and women go their own way.
Two books by Professor’s Regnerus about the revolution.
Premarital Sex in America: How Young Americans Meet, Mate, and Think about Marrying
Strongly recommended: Cheap Sex: The Transformation of Men, Marriage, and Monogamy
