Skip to content
About these ads

But Hitler confiscated guns, leaving Germans helpless!

11 January 2013

Summary: When Americans demand accuracy from their reliable sources, reform will become possible for America. The Left cannot correct the Right on this flaw, nor vice versa. So long as we (Left and Right) accept lies from our friends and fellow partisans, then our leaders will lead us by lies. So long as we remain sheep, they will treat us like sheep. Here we have yet more examples.

.

20130111-Hitler-guns

.

Adolph Hitler said:

This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!

Like so many quotations circulated by the Right in America, it’s fake. In fact, the “Hitler confiscated guns” story is largely fake. For details, Chase Mader refers us to this great paper: “On the NRA, Adolph Hitler, Gun Registration, and the Nazi Gun Laws: Exploding the Culture Wars”, Bernard E. Harcourt (Prof Law, U Chicago), Fordam Law Review, November 2004 (pdf of draft here; image of final here). Also, Hitler was quite popular in Germany until he lost the war.

For a history of this fake quote, for those of you who want the non-scholarly version, see this entry at The Straight Dope.

More wonderful pro-gun quotes: fake advice from the Founders

.

Fake quotes about gun rights could fill a book. Repeatedly debunked, still widely circulated — and believed. The frequency of lies in our public debates reveals us much about 21st century America — and the educational value of the Internet.

(a) This quote sounds definitive! Too bad Jefferson never said it.

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms … disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”

It’s from Cesare Beccaria’s Essay on Crimes and Punishments (1764). Jefferson’s disagreed. See his note on this: “False ideas of utility”. See the details here.

(b) But I’ve heard this fake quote one a thousand times! How sad people lie to us so often.

“No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”

The actual quote is “No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms within his own lands.” It’s from the second and third drafts of the Constitution for Virginia of June 1776. It was not in the adopted version. See the details here.

(c) This is my favorite. A powerful quote, although not by one of the Founders. It’s also fake.

Yes, another fake quote.

See Factcheck.org for details.

Other Posts about Gun Ownership

  1. The Founders talk to us about guns for a well-regulated militia,24 July 2012
  2. Yet another mass killing in America. Watch the reactions on the Right, and learn., 17 December 2012
  3. “The right to shoot tyrants, not deer”, 11 January 2013
  4. But Hitler confiscated guns, leaving Germans helpless!, 11 January 2013
  5. Guns do not make us safer. Why is this not obvious?, 14 January 2013
  6. Let’s look at the Second Amendment, cutting through the myths and spin, 15 January 2015
  7. Myth-busting about gun use in the Wild West, 16 January 2013
  8. Second amendment scholarship (using money to reshape America), 19 January 2013
  9. Do guns make us more safe, or less? Let’s look at the research., 23 January 2013
  10. Guns in the wild west: regulated, with no fears about ripping the Constitution, 25 January 2013

.

.

About these ads
4 Comments leave one →
  1. Germany Insider permalink
    20 November 2013 7:56 am

    Hitler was a great conservationist and believed in animal preservation. Hitler had the Nazis plant over 10,000,000 trees before the war. Hitler also funded an animal conservation center in Germany. The fuhrer saved over 25,000 turtles before his death. The Hindenburg was used on two occasions for moving endangered animals to safety.

    Like

    • 20 November 2013 7:59 am

      How sad that Hitler had no interest in preserving human life. The turtle and trees vs. millions of dead people…

      Like

  2. patrioticduo permalink
    9 May 2014 3:54 pm

    Exhibits A and B are not “fake quotes” whatever that is. Rather, A is a simple misquote. The underlying message is still valid whether written by Cesare Beccaria or copied and republished in a book by Thomas Jefferson. And B, is a misquote which only allows for the point to be taken out of context. The full quote includes “in his own lands” which only narrows the scope of the right. Nevertheless, the same sort of loose use of language permiates your own writing. Fake they are demonstrably not. Inaccurate at their worse, though still potentially valid in their basic underlying point. I leave it to someone else to look into the last one.

    Like

    • 9 May 2014 7:11 pm

      Patriot,

      I do not believe that you do not understand the meaning of the phrase “fake quote”. Few people are that stupid. It is a quote not said by the person it is attributed to. Both of those are fake quotes.

      People fake quotes to lend authority to assertions. It is a form of propaganda. To say that the statement is true even if the attribution is false is missing the point. I very much doubt you would defend such statements by Leftists in support of laws you disagree with.

      I am requesting that WordPress send a higher quality of troll.

      Like

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

Follow

Get every new post delivered to your Inbox.

Join 2,474 other followers

%d bloggers like this: