Summary: A reader’s comment about Breaking news: a new analysis blows more holes in the “hockey stick” temperature reconstruction.
Excerpt from a reader’s comment:
OK, so the data is not as clear as the hockey stick graph shows. The authors still conclude: “Our model provides a similar reconstruction but has much wider standard errors, reflecting the weak signal and large uncertainty encountered in this setting.”
Lets step back though at look at climatology basics. … Climate is exactly the same with long periods of swinging around narrow ranges followed by sudden jumps to another semi-stable range (i.e. entering and leaving ice ages). We do not know what kind of change of input it would take to force the climate system into an extreme jump or exactly what that jump would look like, we just know that such jump will happen at some point if inputs are changed enough.
… Can it possibly be responsible for mankind to conduct an uncontrolled, irreversible experiment on the only planet we, our children and grandchildren and all the rest of know life inhabit? I think not and the paper reference in this post does not change my conclusion at all.
There are two levels of rebuttal to this.
First, this comment invokes the precautionary principle — the swiss army knife of doomsterism. Describe an extreme scenario, then conclude that we must devote massive resources to stop it. No analysis needed of its likelihood, probable impacts — or comparison of that scenario with other possible extreme scenarios. But we cannot fund massive programs against every shockwave. At the end are links to posts discussing this.
Second, this comment does not accurately described the current situation. There are many dynamics at work. Here are a few of them.
(1) The threat is not certain
(1a) Both data and models have been inadequately verified
Much of the case showing anthropogenic global warnings rests on the proxy studies (i.e., reconstructions of temperatures using proxies) and untested climate models. The results of the first has been shown by multiple statistical experts to be unreliable. The second have never even been verified (doing so would require a well-funded multidisciplinary team of 3rd party experts).
(1b) The role of CO2
The projected rise in CO2 will not (as you imply) cause substantial temperature increases by itself. That requires forcing, increases humidity. This mechanism is conjectural. For example, rising humidity will increase cloud formation, which will offset some (most?) of the “greenhouse effect” warming.
(1c) CO2 is not the only factor at work
Humanity is changing the climate in many ways — primarily changes in land use (e.g., causing the Kilimanjaro glaciers to melt) and emitting particulates (an atmospheric cooling agent, also causes glacier melting). The net effect of these is unknown, to a large degree because premature scientific conclusions have limited funding. So it’s not clear where resources should be submitted. To learn more about this, a good starting point are the papers of the eminent meteorologist Roger Pielke Sr (Wikipedia); he discusses these issues at his website.
(2) There are other powerful climate cycles at work
To mention just three.
- The past 2 century long warming might result from poorly understood natural long cycle, being a rebound from the little ice age (LIA). Without reliable proxy studies, the geographic extent of the LIA remains disputed.
- The post-1980 warming might result from interaction of poorly understand decadal cycles (e.g., Pacific Decadal Oscillation, the PDO)
- Most significant and only dimly understood, are the effect of solar cycles on our climate.
All of these are activity researched by scientists. The media black-out on their work does not invalidate it. You can find links to some of this research on the FM reference page Science & climate – studies & reports.
Posts about the precautionary principle
- A reply to comments on FM site about Global Warming, 17 November 2008
- We are so vulnerable to so many things. What is the best response?, 30 December 2008
- My “wish list” for the climate sciences in 2009, 2 January 2009
- More shockwave events to worry about, in addition to peak oil and global warming, 15 January 2009
- What about all the hype, the extreme warnings, about swine flu?, 3 September 2009
- Bad news for India, probably for China, perhaps for the US as well, 11 September 2009 — About peak fresh water
- A look at global warming written in a cooler and more skeptical time, giving us a better understanding of climate science, 23 November 2009
Posts about other shockwaves
Shockwave: low (or unknown) probabilty but high impact scenarios.
- The most dangerous form of Peak Oil, 8 April 2008
- The “Oil Shockwave” project: well-funded analysis of the obvious, 10 April 2008
- Peak Oil Doomsters debunked, end of civilization called off, 8 May 2008
- Spreading the news: the end is nigh!, 8 May 2008
- There is no “peak water” crisis, 19 June 2008
- A reply to comments on FM site about Global Warming, 17 November 2008
- We are so vulnerable to so many things. What is the best response?, 30 December 2008
- Comment: warnings about a reversal of Earth’s magnetic field, 30 December 2008
- About our certain doom from the Yellowstone supervolcano, 11 January 2009
- Bad news for India, probably for China, perhaps for the US as well, 11 September 2009 — About peak fresh water
- A serious threat to us – a top priority shockwave – a hidden danger!, 20 January 2010 — About Xenoestrogens as a pollutant
- More about shockwaves of the volcanic kind, 21 April 2010
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