About Steve Crowder’s thrilling exposé of Antifa’s violence

Summary: A thrilling exposé from a right-wing journalists reveals the hidden violence of Antifa. It has gotten a million clicks in two days on YouTube, but the major news media ignore it! Read here to see the truth behind the excitement.

AntiFascist march
Antifa at the anniversary of the Cronulla race riots, Dec 2015. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen.

Undercover in Antifa” by Steve Crowder.

At “Louder with Crowder“, posted 28 September 2017.

Here is an amazing story on Steve Crowder’s YouTube channel. Crowder and his producer, Jared Monroe, infiltrate a Antifa group and return with video and stories. It has gone viral, with over a million views so far. Right-wing commentators say it proves the violent nature of Antifa. ZeroHedge: “Shocking Undercover Footage Exposes Antifa’s ‘Premeditated’ Violence.” Washington Times: “Steven Crowder and producer infiltrate antifa prior to Ben Shapiro event.” The Daily Wire: “Crowder Infiltrates Antifa At Shapiro Event” (this is incorrect, as you will see). The Blaze: “Undercover video exposes violent plans at Antifa event: Threats, weapons, and violence abound” (also incorrect). One of the few accurate headlines is from Russia Today (irony alert): “Inside ‘Antifa’: Undercover video purports to show group plotting violence.

Crowder is not the New York Times, but valuable information sometimes comes from the fringes of the news media. Watch, listen, and evaluate it for yourself. Better yet, read the transcript that follows, which has more information. See my conclusions at the end.

 

Transcript

Note: This is my version, starting with YouTube’s automatically generated text. Where possible I have added links to the quotes used. Some of the quotes I have expanded to more accurately represented what was said. Some of quotes given imo misrepresented what the person said.

Unnamed woman: “The idea is plain clothes, hard tactics. I don’t think they’ll know what hit them. Because they’re not prepared for what we’re planning. …You’re going to take the knife. Yeah, and we got 2 AK’s coming.”

Crowder: …Okay, there you have verifiable proof that an Antifa is premeditatedly and proactively violent. And you’ll see more in this video then you’ve probably ever seen before. The kinds of attacks they plot, how they coordinate, what tools they use. Even more importantly, you’ll see a complicit media who when offered this very footage turned the other way. How do we know all this? Because we’ve been infiltrating this organization for a long time. Hard. But first you’ll need a primer. Protests. Violence. Riots. Calling everyone a Nazi. This is the m. o. {modus operandi} of Antifa. We’ve all seen it, but the media, politicians, and academia all defend, deflect or completely deny.

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Lecia Brooks of the Southern Poverty Law Center on MSNBC’s “Hardball”: “They are strictly principled anti-fascist.” {Transcript.}

Ana Navarro, CNN political commentator: “What we saw, with some brave people risking their lives ….” {See the video of her meltdown, and the transcript}

Don Lemon, CNN Anchor: “That group protests fascism, so they were there protesting fascism. Maybe their tactics weren’t exactly right. All groups like that, political groups, rights groups, protest groups, it’s messy.” {Transcript.}

Anthony Kapel “Van” Jones, CNN political commentator and former Obama Special Advisor: “Antifa are people who go and they try to push back on these guys. Sometimes they go too far. I think that that is a significant issue. But it is not the case that they are going around building an armed movement to go and kill people.” {Transcript.}

Mark Bray, historian and Associated Visiting Scholar  at Dartmouth, on NBC’s “Meet the Press” (see his book, Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook): “I think that a lot of people recognize that, when pushed, self-defense is a legitimate response to white supremacy and neo-Nazi violence. And you know we’ve tried ignoring neo-Nazi’s in the past. We’ve seen how that turned out in 20’s and 30’s and the lesson of history is you need to take it with the utmost seriousness before it’s too late. …Fascism cannot be defeated through speech.” {Transcirpt.}

Michael Eric Dyson, University Professor at Georgetown (PhD in religion): “The people that we claim — Black Lives Matter, the Antifa movement, and so on — are interested in preserving the fabric of America.” {Transcript.}

Whoppi Goldberg on ABC’s “The View”: “Antifa is one of those things — I don’t want to say they’re right — but somebody came up with as a catchphrase so you could say, ‘There’s violence on the other side.'” {Transcript.}

Crowder: Why is that why defend the indefensible? Are they really just an inconsequential group of rabble-rousers? How deep does Antifa’s organization go? What’s their endgame?

For several months we tracked and infiltrated an Antifa, culminating in their violent protest of the notorious Jewish Nazi speaker Ben Shapiro at the University of Utah. But before we get to the part where we send Not Gay Jared {his producer, Jared Monroe} in undercover, vulnerable, afraid, and shaking like a Chinese Crested {dog} without one of those little gay sweaters — a little backstory. …

In order to get in with the Antifa crowd we had to infiltrate their private groups. After news broke that they were officially classified as a domestic terrorist organization, they pulled everything in much closer to the chest. They started vetting people, becoming paranoid about spies. They demanded that we meet with them in person installing an encrypted messaging app onto our phone, which they used to organize.

Monroe: So just met with the guy and he installed a super-secret encrypted messenger app on my phone and they immediately took roll call using all pseudonyms — such as firebird, ski mask, devious, xavius. Everyone except for Will.

Crowder: Yes, Will. Whom we immediately identified on Facebook, Will also boast of his sawed-off shotguns and armory in his trunk. At least that’s what he said.

Video show what it describes as “Will hands Jared ice pick.”

Crowder: So remember — just as the local authorities will remember — this is Will. What happened to you, Will? Somewhere on the way you lost yourself.

Believe me, it gets worse. The context makes all of this so much worse. Also, the violent Antifa organizer is seemingly a tranny and or genderqueer. Now to be fair, anyone can likely show up and protest. But they told us that all of this was required if we wanted to take part in their self-professed tactics. Now just what do they mean by tactics? We found out the next day. Patience. First, to understand what their tactics are understand that Antifa is now in a PR battle, so what they claim and what they do are two very different things.

Despite wanting to put distance between themselves and Antifa, despite what resident gay Asian and social justice-in-chief George Takei tweets out, Antifa has never operated alone. They’ve been actively supported by professors and other leftists and student organizations. For example, the current University of Utah faculty like Cindy Juraline Salomon-Kebba and a Elinda McKenna encouraged and emboldened students to disrupt the Ben Shapiro event to create chaos.

Lex Scott, BLM Organizer on CBS-2 News: “People like Ben Shapiro are the most dangerous people on this earth. And we’re gonna fight him tomorrow. Aren’t we!”

Crowder: Solidarity in student organizations like the Students for a Democratic Society, because that’s the thing, not only work alongside Antifa when convenient but work with them to scope out police and even to provide pseudo-security by committing acts of violence.

Ean Daxter, head of U of Utah Students for a Democratic Society {no source visible}: “Just to be clear, Antifa’s not an organization. It’s short for anti-fascist. I’m absolutely anti-fascist.”

Clack (pseudonym) of Utah Antifa {no source}: “I would echo what Ean just said. Antifa as a label does not mean a one static organization but it’s definitely an ideology, a movement, a stance if you may, of anti-fascism. Bar none.”

Ean Daxter, head of U of Utah Students for a Democratic Society: “We explicitly ask these people who show up in Black Bloc to show up. These Antifa people to show up, because you know in the past we’ve been threatened by 3%. We’ve been threatened by neo-Nazis. We’ve been threatened by these people before and their presence gives people an immense more amount of safety.”

Crowder: Now according to Antifa’s own words, what makes them different?

Clack (pseudonym) of Utah Antifa: “The difference between them and many of the other activist groups is the willingness to respond with violence.”

Crowder: See the ultimate problem with Antifa, the organization’s and professors who support them, is that because they paint their opposition as Nazis they’ve developed their very own unique code as to what warrants a violent response. They are ready and looking for it.

Clack (pseudonym) of Utah Antifa: “The willingness to respond with violence the way that I would address what you were just asking about it. I would not want to disavow an ally within the movement. ‘No pictures. No pictures.’ That part I would say is understandable given what I was just talking about with anonymity.”

Crowder: Now, context! Don’t forget. “What you gotta do” can include violence against anyone you call a Nazi. They call Ben Shapiro a Nazi. They’re allowed to commit violence against anyone filming them. And just how violent can they get?

Will: “I have a tool box full of sh*t.”
Unnamed woman: “Did you bring your gun?”
Will: “I have on the border between just a regular rifle – assault weapon – and a sawed-off style shotgun. …”
Unnamed woman:: “I got a hand gun. And we have 2 AK’s coming. …Do what you gotta do.”

Unnamed woman: “If you go down to the Military Surplus Store, the Navy Surplus Store, whatever. You can get the Ka-Bar for $30 – $40. And it’s just a combat knife. It’s a fixed blade, five inches or so. You strap it on your leg and you’re good to go. …This one’s like tiny, so you have to really stab them. …Last-ditch is going to be to lure them down here…  —“

Crowder interrupts the video: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. Luring people to their cars with sawed-off shotguns and handing out knives and shivs? This went far beyond a goof and we needed to get Not-Gay Jared out of there. Good thing the man’s got a quick mind. …So at the risk of being called a snitch, Not-Gay Jared immediately turned the footage over to the authorities, who were already aware of our presence there, by the way. It turns out they’ve been tracking this pansexual/transgender queer with an ax to grind for a while, and they were grateful for the footage.

The media, on the other hand, who you think would jump on a story like this, well, their response is what’s most disturbing of all.

Chowder talking to Matt McDonald of Fox-13 News: “He was just down there at President’s Circle and they were handing out sharp objects to stab people with. And they had someone coming with an AK. Why did it take two late night comedians to find this out?”

McDonald: “I wish you guys luck … —”

Crowder interrupts the video: Yes, you just saw correctly. Even being shown the footage in the presence of police officers to confirm authenticity, they walked away. Also, I should note, this is Dan Harris from Nightline, national ABC News. He knew about the footage and the whole story too. I offered it to him and asked for his card. He did not give it to me. We were delivering a story to local and national news on a silver platter, which included infiltration, violence, and exposing the roots of a national domestic terrorist organization. And no one wanted to give it even a glimpse? Not one person? It didn’t even get mentioned.

Fox News journalist - no name given
Fox News journalist.

Unnamed Fox news journalist: “Protesters flooding the campus trying to shut down conservative speaker Ben Shapiro’s appearance.”

Matt McDonald of Fox-13 News: “These are protesters that are against Ben Shapiro conservative…”

Crowder interrupts video: Only these people didn’t call Ben Shapiro controversial. They called him a Nazi. They aren’t there to protest. They are there to punch Nazis. As they chalk and paint on the walls or commit violence against people filming them, depending on the day. Case in point – our footage assisted with leading to the arrests of these violent protesters.

Good example: code name honey bee. Her real name is Jennifer. Now let me be clear here. We do not want to dox anyone and we ask that none of you dox anyone. But we do want you to alert your local authorities if you recognize any of these people. These folks aren’t playing a game anymore. This is serious violence. Take this black girl who committed assault. Now we couldn’t find any official arrest record but we did post this on Facebook and then this happened. So we immediately ID’d her as well. Grace *beep*. They’re so easy to trick. …The next day, when the inevitable violence that we warned about broke out, so-called journalists were all over it because, you know, they’re lazy.

Here’s the thing. Antifa and its supporters are openly practicing violence. Worse, they plan it. They plan to escalate it, as you can see. Now, if they call Ben Shapiro or me a Nazi, what does that make you? If they justify violence against somebody with an iPhone camera, what can they do to you?

But worst of all, why did it take a late-night podcast host and his producer to do this kind of journalism? Cryptic messaging apps, private groups handing out illegal weapons and planning tactics. Do you mean to tell me that no one at ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, with billions of dollars in resources could have done this? It took Steven Crowder and Not-Gay Jared to pull it off with some plane tickets and a couple of burner phones? Sure, listen. Antifa is violent. They suck. We get it. Very violent. But the fact that the media has never reported on any this begs the question: Are they complicit, is the media complicit with all of this, or do they just suck at their jobs?

——————-

News

Conclusions

As they say in Texas: big hat, few cows. As usual when investigating these big stories from the right or left — stories ignored by the major news media — there is little or no basis to them. This one at least has a small basis in fact. Crowder’s “undercover investigation” is one brief chart with woman on a park bench, discussing Antifa’s violent intent. A dozen lines of dialog, for which we have little context. How did this conversation begin? Who is the woman?

This conversation tells us nothing we did not learn from the previous violent riots, where thugs of the left and right fought (in a desultory fashion) in the streets. Despite the thrilling talk of guns — the core of Crowder’s exposé — there have been no shootings at these (that I’ve heard of).

But Crowder got clicks, perhaps some revenue, some career-building fame points. Tens or hundreds of thousands of right-wingers got their preconceptions strengthened. After all, this was “proof”. Any objective observers got more evidence that much of America — left and right — have become gullible, eager consuming propaganda like pigs at the swill trough. That willingness to believe what they are told makes them a threat to the Republic — but one without any obvious treatment.

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His Girl Friday

My favorite film about real journalism.

Let’s not get nostalgic about journalism in the good-old-days. For a fun reminder, watch His Girl Friday with Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell (1940). One of the great screwball comedies, it captures many aspects of journalism. For example, see the scene where a room full of journalists see a jailbreak — and each writes a very different story about it.

This is one of the few films I have seen with great acting, a strong plot, fast pacing, and wonderful dialog. The only flaw, in my opinion, is the ending. The film ends with change in the characters. That’s realistic, but I prefer more optimistic films.

14 thoughts on “About Steve Crowder’s thrilling exposé of Antifa’s violence

    1. gregori,

      That’s got to win “Best of Thread.”

      I believe there is usuasaly a perspective from which an event or story makes sense. You’ve provided that for this video. Perhaps Crowder is trolling the Right. He knew they would believe this.

  1. Looks like the Antifa/national socialist sympathizers have made it to the comments already!

    What is it that attracts you zombies to violent extremism?
    Talking never seemed like a good option?
    Were you abused as children?

    1. What is it that attracts you fossils to unfunny, D-list failed comedians?
      Is there a conservative ‘comedian’ who is even marginally funny? (asking seriously)
      Have all those years of AM radio and cable news atrophied the part of your brain capable of sensing humor? (also seriously asking)

    2. Boeing,

      “What is it that attracts you fossils to unfunny, D-list failed comedians?”

      The same reason that archaeologists dig through trash. We gain a deeper understanding of society by looking at events on the fringes, where people often don’t both with the facades that conceal beliefs and feelings.

      “Is there a conservative ‘comedian’ who is even marginally funny?”

      The header says the subject here is “geopolitics”. I doubt many here even have a sense of humor. (I have a great one, but few appreciate my jokes).

      “Have all those years of AM radio and cable news atrophied the part of your brain capable of sensing humor?”

      I doubt Crowder intended this as humor. Certainly the folks on the right circulating this don’t see it as humor.

      Now a question for you: can you say something that gives a little evidence that you read the post? Your comment suggests that you didn’t.

    3. I remembered the funniest moment in Crowder’s ‘career’ – It was him getting socked by the UAW guy in Illinois

  2. Larry, I agree that the video is very scant evidence of violent intent. However, there is lots and lots of other evidence that Antifa has violent intent. So why focus on this video without presenting all the other evidence? Sure there is polarization in America. A better question is why more politicians and commentators don’t condemn Antifa. The answer would be uncomfortable for a media that is biased.

    1. dpy6629,

      That’s a good question. It’s explained at the end of the post.

      This conversation tells us nothing we did not learn from the previous violent riots, where thugs of the left and right fought (in a desultory fashion) in the streets. Despite the thrilling talk of guns — the core of Crowder’s exposé — there have been no shootings at these (that I’ve heard of).

      But Crowder got clicks, perhaps some revenue, some career-building fame points. Tens or hundreds of thousands of right-wingers got their preconceptions strengthened. After all, this was “proof”. Any objective observers got more evidence that much of America — left and right — have become gullible, eager consuming propaganda like pigs at the swill trough. That willingness to believe what they are told makes them a threat to the Republic — but one without any obvious treatment.

      This is one of a long series of similar posts about propaganda from the Left and the Right (see a list of some of them here, and all of them here).

      For a more detailed explanation of why our gullibility is a major threat to the Republic, see these posts.

      1. The secret, simple tool that persuades Americans. That molds our opinions.
      2. We cannot agree on simple facts and so cannot reform America.
      3. American politics is a fun parade of lies, for which we pay dearly.
      4. Our minds are addled, the result of skillful and expensive propaganda.
      5. Important adviceLearning skepticism, an essential skill for citizenship in 21st century America. About “extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof”.
      6. We live in an age of ignorance, but can decide to fix this – today.
      7. Remembering is the first step to learning. Living in the now is ignorance.
      8. Swear allegiance to the truth as a step to reforming America.
      9. Ways to deal with those guilty of causing the fake news epidemic.
      10. The secret source of fake news. Its discovery will change America.
      11. ImportantA picture of America, showing a path to political reform.
  3. We already knew that most modern journalists were lazy and stupid. So now this guy Crowder is calling them cowards? He may be right.

    Thuggish groups certainly need to be infiltrated and exposed. Perhaps sometime, somewhere, a better sponsored group will get the backing to do a more careful and thorough job.

    1. Horsten,

      I’d be impressed if we saw evidence that they did in fact go undercover. All we see is one brief conversation with two people on a park bench. Not much of a basis to call others “cowards.”

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